Nov 28 2007
Episode 1.08: Bitter Sweets
Original Airdate: November 28, 2007 | Special Time: 9/8c
Episode Summary: A vindictive taffy shop owner (guest star Molly Shannon as Dilly Balsam) sets up shop down the street from The Pie Hole, determined to drive Ned out of business by any means necessary.


hmmm, if the next episode is about ned trying to make peace with ned over something, then perhaps we get to see a big secret revealed in this episode. “…trying to take over ned’s business by any means necessary” maybe she has a secret to spill?
sorry, ned with chuck, not ned with ned (that’d be an interesting psychological dilemma though…)
Maybe Chuck finally finds out about how her dad really died?
that’s what i’m thinking- only…how would chuck find out? i don’t think ned is going to tell her. i was thinking that maybe the taffy shop owner knows something, but how would she?
That’ll be interesting to see. I don’t really know what else it would be, though.
Ooh … yes, “any means necessary” certainly sounds like she’s got something to hold over Ned’s head! 11 minutes more … I can’t wait!!
Ok I really hope people stop by tonight and watch with us or it’s going to be the Ash and Ashes show. Ha ha ha!!
Well, Ashes is present and awaiting fascinating conversations.
Aww, it’s really not the Christmas season until How the Grinch Stole Christmas airs.
I’m ready to join the Ash and Ashes Show!
as long as its the animated one…I’m not a big fan of the live-action version.
for some reason, the grinch scares me… dont really know why.
maybe Ashley from a couple of weeks ago will come back…wouldnt that be fun
Hi, am I the only Canadian, who just finished watching the eppy?
Hi Ash! Glad to have you back! Poor Ned, not being able to play in leaves as a child.
Ash, Ashes, and Ashley! That would be fun.
Awww … “Am I your boyfriend?” Ned is so cute.
Hi Lily! I’m also Canadian, but I just got home so I missed the earlier showing. I’m watching it on ABC now.
“No! Now, you’re dead”
I love Ned.
Well, hi Kimber! That’s to bad. Have fun watching it. For myself, I am watching it again.
I love Chuck ’70’s look. I love her wardrobe and on an even more shallow note, can I say, I find it so neat that she wears the same cloths more than once, contrary to other shows where they just wear their cloths once. That is strangely realistic of PD.
life-sized doll. another example of this show’s genius- who else would have thought of that and actually pull it off? no one.
You’re lucky, Lily! You get to watch it twice in a row!!
I, too, love Chuck’s wardrobe - ALWAYS. Her cute hat and sunglasses were super cute, though. And the dress. Also - it’s neat that they wear the same clothes more than once. It *is* very realistic.
Ha ha … life-sized doll who was his real life girlfriend. Too funny.
Awww…poor guy. I like that little speech Alfredo (is that his name?) gave Olive.
I was just coming here to say that for the first time I hated Chuck’s outfit. Ha ha.
Mmm … the candy store looks amazing!
Dilly and Billy Balsam.Hee. Only on PD!
I can’t believe they killed Chuck. Kidding, I have no idea what’s happening as we’re watching the debate right now instead of Daisies. I hope to hop on soon.
I know! I love it. I could watch it three times in a row and it would not be enough.
The whole show could give me cavities not just Chuck. The life size doll thing is also strangely sweet in a weirdo kind of way.
Chuck’s outfit is really far out this week. But Anna is just so gorgeous that she pulls it off.
A studdering candy person… nice touch.
oooo….look at the mean bittersweets owner. i hate her already (though i thought the stutter was hilarious). i think i know a couple of people like her..misconstruing people’s actions and words
This show definitely could give on cavities!! It’s overly sweet, but at the same time I keep wanting more.
Dan, what are you doing watching the debate instead of PD? (I have on idea which debate you’re talking about, of course!). Tsk tsk tsk.
Well. The movie Lars and the Real Girl has pretty much the same plot of a guy with a RealDoll for a girlfriend.
I know people like that, too. I can’t wait to see what they do to each other.
I don’t know. Her outfit is strange, but I love it. I do love retro outfits thought, as long as they don’t go farther than the ’70’s, but that’s me and apparently Chuck.
lights out on the store…nice touch.
The Pie Ho. Ha ha ha. Also, the dog who plays Digby is an awesome actor! Dogactor? Dogtor? No, that’s wrong…
Pie Ho. The mean Nelson, from The Simpson, in me is going Ha! Ha!
Shut down the Pie Hole?! No, no, no.
I totally heard Anna’s accent when she was talking to Olive. lol
evil!!!
Ooh, that Dilly is NASTY!
The birds! The birds!
An evil bitch, that’s what I would call her if it wasn’t disrepectful of digby’s mother.
In Chuck’s words…she’s a ….witch.
Rockerbaby, I hear hints of her accents occasionally, too. Bravo to Molly Shannon - she’s fantastic.
I freaking love this show. I can’t believe there’s just one episode left after this.
Molly Shannon plays a fantastic strange witch. I loved her in Will and Grace and SNL.
I can’t say I hear Anna’s accent. Sad, because british accent is my favorite.
OMG Olive and Chuck in those outfits, hats, backpacks, and HEELS!
Wow, the girls wearing pants… we don’t see that often.
<p>Ha ha ha ha ha!!! I love that she ran head first into the door. Insane! I love Olive and Chuck’s friendship.</p> DON’T MESS WITH THE PIE HOS (will be a t-shirt in the store tomorrow).
“Don’t mess with the Pie Hos”!!! LOVE IT!
Did they just say “Don’t mess with the Pie Hos?”
Chuck is so cute when she says cool. The Bad girl look suits her too.
Lily - I love it when Chuck says “cool”. She’s definitely cute when she says lots of things!!
My poor sad Ned. Why can life let Ned be simply happy?
THAT IS NOT GOOD. And now they can’t revive him to find out who REALLY did it.
Uh oh.
Hmm, Dilly arrived at that conclusion awfully quick…
Oh no, Ned! That doesn’t look good for you. I’ll bet Dilly killed her brother to frame Ned. Seems really drastic, but she strikes me as *that* evil.
I wouldn’t be surprised, but I’m not convinced she’s the epitome of evil yet.
Yeah. I don’t mean to be a nit-picker for the accent. But that’s like…what I do. Hahaha. The only reason I figured out that I liked the movie August Rush was because I forgot to listen for the kid’s accent. lol
Hey, Ned in something other than black or grey…too bad it’s because he’s in prison.
Did anyone catch Olive’s quote earlier? Something about an alternate universe where something else would suck? It was funny, I want to save it.
HA HA Olive. Kristin rocks. AND DIGBY!
Kimber, it’s killing me that you guys don’t know, but that I do know who did.
Emerson nearly fried Ned *Wagging my finger at him, while huging Olive.*
ACK! Lily, I wouldn’t want to be in your position! But we’ll know soon enough.
NO Olive!! “Oh, crap”. I love her.
And that’s the problem with being so compact, Olive.
I love that Dilly is wearing mittens and not gloves.
Yes, you will know soon. Thanks god.
This week even the way they solve the crime is technically sweet.
Chuck knows way too many things about too many things.
now now now, don’t give us TOO many hints. I know it’s hard not to share, but we’re almost there!
Part of the quote was “Wouldn’t it just rock n roll if liking somone meant them liking you back.” I think its probably not word for word. If there are any corrections please let me.
I am not giving hints. Don’t worry Ashes, I wouldn’t. I was talking about the candy they are using to get finger prints. Sorry if I worried you!
She’s got TEN fingers? Then … who?
Trunk Monkey … HA HA HA.
Now everyone knows. I feel better. That was so clever. I didn’t see it coming and that does not happen often on PD.
LOL. Hey now, here’s a sweet Emerson moment.
Aww … Olive and Alfredo!
Oh wait … not real. Damn this show and its dream sequences.
Is Olive going to move on, finally? I hope so…Alfredo loves her so much.
At least, Olive finally can see who her prince charming is. A great step in the right direction.
NOOOOOO!!!
I am so mad at NEd right now! lol
NO NO NO NO NO…I thought he wasn’t going to tell her!?!
NOOOOOOO! Shut up Ned! Poor Chuck, she is all alone now. Noooooo!!!
WOW, wasn’t expecting that ending.
Wait…we have to wait TWO WEEKS AGAIN!? Why?!?!
Two more weeks until the last (??) episode? That’s just not right.
Why’d he have to phrase it like that anyway?! Why not, “I was RESPONSIBLE for your father’s death”? It doesn’t sound as bad that way!
Two weeks is a long time, yes, but at least it will last longer this way. I don’t know what I will do if they don’t come back in February.
My mind is reeling. I hope, there will be sneek peak to hold me, till then.
NO!!! This is awful
They’re trying to torture us again, I think. I don’t think I can survive next week without it, but then again, it stretches the season another week
Or how about “I inadvertantly triggered your dad’s death” that sounds sufficiently Ned-ish. You don’t just tell your girlfriend you killed her father. She’s pretty understanding, so I hope she realizes he didn’t do it on purpose.
The last time there was a two week stretch, I watched all the old episodes online multiple times. Looks like I’ll be doing that again.
Haha. I think the word “inadvertantly” in a sentence like that is kind of humorous. I like it, Ashes.
Stretching is good! It give me a treat to wait on for. No more eppies after that, well, that’s not good. Please make the writers be heard, and let us all enjoy more PD.
Rocker, the phrasing is bad, but at least he is being completly honest. He just reaped the bandage, holding nothing back. That’s always that.
It would have sounded nicer than “I killed your dad”
He didn’t really KILL her dad, though. He just set the events in motion that caused his untimely demise. It’s not like he meant to do it, or even knew it would happen.
Yes, I’ll be rewatching all of the episodes again too. It helps to pass the looooooooooooong two weeks.
“I killed your dad” sounds horrible! NED! How about you “accidentally involuntarily manslaughtered her dad?”
Kill sounds bad, but don’t you all think that when it comes right down to it, that’s what he did. Not on purpose, but he did.
Not really. He had no idea it would happen. He didn’t see the squirrel die when Digby came back to life, so he had no way to know that would happen.
It wasn’t meant to sound nice. Kinda the point I think. I like that it was so direct. I didn’t really want Chuck to find out so soon, though, but it really does fit Ned’s character as we know it so I kind of admire that they did it.
There were several quotes there at the end that I loved but I can’t remember them now! Guess I’ll have to force myself to watch it again.
I also like that we have to wait two weeks for the new episode. I mean, I don’t really like it but that means all of our new episodes won’t be gone as of next week.
Yes, that’s true Ashes, he didn’t KILL her dad. When he explains it to her she’ll understand. It’s not like he understood about the “I bring someone back for more than 1 min and another person dies” concept yet.
“An attractive man who makes pies for a living shouldn’t even spend a short amount of time in prison.”
She said something during tonights episode that makes me think she’ll understand eventually, once she gets over the original shock. I can’t remember what it was, but it was at the beginning of the episode.
Oh, wait, I do remember this one, “A relatively attractive man who makes pies should not spend any time in prison.”
Was it just me, or was there the shadow of male genitalia in the pie Olive took to Ned?
It’s kinda weird how they did the doll thing right around the time that Lars and the Real Girl is out as well. Do the people on this show have any connection to that movie or was it just a weird coincidence?
Laura, I should have read up thread before posting… that’s the quote!
Ashes - I thought it was a gun and bullets baked into the pie.
LOL. Okay, that makes more sense.
Maybe the two week stretch will (if the strike talks come to a happy conclusion) give them time to write/shoot more episodes? Is that even possible at this point?
Brooke, it will give them time to write and shoot episodes but we won’t see them for a while… especially with the holidays approaching and people being off for time during them.
Ned didn’t know, but the fact that it was an accident doesn’t stop it from being his fault that Chuck’s dad died. It was an accident, like a car accident and those people are still judged for murder. Chuck will understand eventualy. She loves Ned too much, she is too grateful to him and she is too good of a person not to. I would give her a few months of profond trauma though.
Rae - I made a mention of that movie higher up. I was thinking the same thing.
And yeah. “Special filling” is prision lingo for “something to help you break out”. That’s why he got all freaked out. lol
We’ll keep our fingers crossed that everything gets resolved for the best soon. I’ll miss my weekly dose of the bright and colorful world of the Pie Hole.
So it’s still possible to have a full season if we are realy and I mean really lucky?
did anyone catch what alfredo said to olive about love adapting? i know the quote was kind of long but it was also kind of beautiful
I loved how it perfectly mirrored what Ned feels for Chuck, but I don’t remember what it was.
Ooh, sorry Rockerbaby, I skimmed some of the comments at the top because they were made while I was still watching the show but I should have gone back up to see if anyone mentioned it.
Lily: It’s possible to get a somewhat full season. They may have to cut back one or two episodes. The longer the strike goes on, the less episodes we’ll get.
Favorite quotes. That’s hard, there’s so many and most I can’t say by heart. For now, I’ll say “Don’t mess with the Pie hoes!” That was a very good one and “Go lieing or at least yay to not telling the true.” was funny to.
Oh, that’s fine Rae. I didn’t actually SAY what I was thinking. I just responded to someone else saying how the life-size doll thing was really original, which it is, but I felt someone should mention that brilliant movie.
Thanks, Rae. That gives me hope. I’ll just pray that the writers will get what is rightfully theirs, till then.
Dear Santa, what I want for christmas this year is a “as close as possible” full season of PD. I have been a very good girl, and I enclose some cookies for you in the hope that you will give coal to all those greedy producers.
P.S.: Those cookies could be upgraded to pies if you do something worse to those greedy pigs.
Love and kisses
Leïla
If that letter doesn’t sway Santa to our way of thinking, Lily, I don’t know what will.
Tell him I’ll throw in a batch of my homemade truffles, too.
Mmm, homemade truffles…Will do, Ashes. I have a feeling Santa would want more PD too. After all, he is so much like the piemaker. He brought back some kids to life and he loves sweet. I tell you, Santa is a fan of PD, and he won’t want it to go, but I’m sure some sweet bribes might give him the right push to help us.
Hahahaha Lily. I love it. LOVE IT.
And can I throw in right here that I’m having a completely unrelated IM conversation right now and I told me friend that I would kill her in some various joking way. And she asked who I’d eat dinner with every night. And so I TOLD her that I’d just call abc, and get in touch with Lee Pace. He’d come touch her and she’d be just fine. Some people just don’t get it. Psh. *rolls eyes*
*Insert disclaimer of “I’m not insane I know he’s a character” here*
LOL. I understand completely. You’re amoung friends. We’ll just call this the Pushing Daisies Addiction Support Group. (PDASG)
Hahaha. Awesome, Ashes. Good to know.
Hi, I’m Jessa. Found this place from thePieHole community on Livejournal. Here are my two favorite quotes from tonight’s episode:
Emerson - “No see, this is how it all ends. Some weird guy comes in saying stuff that don’t make no sense and by the time your head realizes ‘hey this weird guy don’t make no sense’ your guts are all over the window.”
Olive - “….from the pie hole across the street as in ’shut your’ but one sweet whiff and people usually wanna ‘open their’.”
Enjoy.
Starting now…
The leaves were a wonderful touch.
Am I the only one or does everyone love Alfredo and Olive’s banter.
Love Mike White, Chuck & Buck suck and…
Lars and the Real Girl much?
You mean that Lee Pace, can’t actully bring back the death to life? *Goes join Chuck, in her not so lonely anymore trauma*
Happy that you like my letter though. *Goes back to zooming the cold streets with no real purpose*
I loved the leaves. And where on earth is Chuck going to go? I wonder if she’ll try to go back to her Aunts. I’m wondering if they ever find out she’s back alive.
The aunts will find out when the need for dram arise (which is not now). I am scared that Chuck will follow the smelly man and tell him her secret. This could go back to bit her and Ned’s too pretty butts.
yeah it could be bad. I hope she resists the urge to spill her story.
I think this show is awesome!!! Thanks Ashes, really needed something else to get addicted to. lmao I’m already wondering how they’re going to do the finale.
No problem. I’m glad to add another Pushing Daisies Addict.
So, what do you think will happen? Will Chuck accidentally touch Ned?
Obviously this will be a secret for the episode and will probably never occur.
show not episode
Unless Anna gets tired of playing in serie or something, I don’t think Chuck will touch Ned, unless they found a way for her not to die of it.
at which point, they will have to cancel the show, because without Chuck, the show wouldn’t be the same.
Very true. So the chances of that happening would be nil to none.
Amen to that. Goodnight and until next time. It was fun to share my PD obsession with other crazy people like me.
I’m glad to have people to share it with as well. It’s much more fun to watch with friends.
True true. Gotta love it ; )
I think that it’s a brilliant idea anyway, but I kind of felt that the life-size doll reminded me of the movie “Lars and the Real Girl.”
If you look at it, no show is truly original. But I think that this one makes an exception to the norm.
Emmerson: No, see, this is how it all ends. Some weird guy comes in sayin’ stuff that don’t make no sense? And by the time your head realizes, “Hey, this weird guy don’t make no sense,” your guts are all over the window.
*****
Alfredo: If I loved you … then I would love you in any way I could. And if we could not touch, then I would draw strength from your beauty, and if I went blind then I would fill my soul with the sound of your voice and the contents of your thoughts until the last spark of my love for you lit the shabby darkness of my dying mind.
omg
that episode was sooo good
especially the ending!!
i cant for another 2 weeks!
Dang, it sucks living on Pacific time — everyone’s already seen the show by the time it’s on out here! Oh well, it’s been fun reading everyone’s comments.
I’m not surprised that Ned told Chuck about her dad. If he hadn’t, this would have been a 3rd strike — first, he didn’t tell her that someone else died when he let her live, then he didn’t tell her that Olive kissed him. I’m kind of glad he’s learning and getting this skeleton outta the closet (almost literally). You don’t think they’ll go wake up her dad so Chuck can say goodbye to him, do you?
Had to squee a little for Olive’s kiss/dream sequence, but amen to whoever said “damn this show and their dream sequences.” That’s twice they’ve fooled me.
I am so in love with this show all over again! It just does that every week. But two weeks before the next ep is the word? No! Not fair! What do I do for two weeks without my Daisies fix? :S
Best quote tonight: “Don’t mess with the Pie Hoes.”
That one had me giggling like mad. Loved the outfits with those ridiculous heels. LOL Loved the Bitter Sweets shop- hopefully we’ll see more of it next week, and Alfredo. Him and Olive were so cute in that dream sequence.
And Ned telling Chuck about her Dad had me yelling at my TV. He should tell her, yet I didn’t want him to.
But frak! A two week wait!
ugh, my computer broke halfway into the episode, so i couldn’t comment with any of you guys! loved tonight’s show, though i am still in shock that Ned actually told her. i liked the (almost) relationship between olive and fredo, wish i could see more of it in the future (oh, wait, thats right…theres only one more episode because these morons cant give the writers what they deserve!) promise ill fix my computer’s problem in time for the next episode (2 weeks…sucks)
“don’t mess with the pie hos!”
OMG, I’m reading through these comments and realizing that apparently I fell asleep through some of it. No, seriously I missed part of the show. I didn’t see Ned tell Chuck about her Father. And now that I think about it, I didn’t see the resolution of the case either.
I’m seriously honestly the lamest douche on earth. I’m pretty sure I deleted the show too. WTF I’m dying.
The line when Chuck says, “Because you really like him” was originally “Because he really likes you” or “Because i really like you” you can see chuck’s mouth very clearly forming the word “you” instead of “him”
I was wondering if anyone knew what was in the pie olive baked for ned. I can’t figure out why he didn’t want it.
I loved the epiosde. I loved the prison scenes of everyone visiting Ned and Emerson’s remarks. I loved Olive and Chuck breaking into candy store, the Pie Ho sign, and Molly Shannon played it excellent last night.
They had 10.18 million viewers last night which is best news of all.
Alishia- There was an outline of a gun and bullets baked into the pie. The “special filling” Olive was talking about.
Ned(dan.) — can’t believe you fell asleep and missed Ned’s strip tease scene! No, wait, that was MY dream sequence.
Loved Olive and Chuck in their Charlie’s Angels break in, but overall it wasn’t my favorite ep. Good, but not as awesome as Dummy or Pigeon or the Pie-lette. Maybe it will grow on me as I rewatch it over the next two weeks…
“Don’t mess with the pie hos!” Brilliant… Can’t wait for the tee shirt! I want that and “Follow the Yellow Thick Hose”
Seriously, give the writers anything they want! Where would this show be without them?!
Ash- You were missed dearly this week! It wasn’t quite the same without my PD friend.
Hope to see everyone back in two weeks!
(And yeah, they REALLY need to get this mess resolved soon…)
I was rewatching the episode, and I realized I used to drive a car like the one Olive gets locked in the trunk of. Only mine was a LOT more beat up.
Did anyone else hear Digby drop the F bombed when he growled back at the food inspector? I rewound it over and over and listened again and again. I swear (pardon the pun) the bark started with the Fffffff sound, followed by YOU.
I was rewatching it, and yeah, you can almost hear him say it. I was surprised.